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  1. We work hard as posters. Bob & Du are making a lot of ad coin off our backs. Sure Bob gives us some nice stuff but if we unionize we can demand the things we really need and want. First item: 25 minutes to edit posts. C'mon @BobDole or we're gonna strike. Who's with me?!
    12 points
  2. Just looking at some stats from the team scores that I found interesting. 2024 Penn State vs. 1997 Iowa For those wondering about the 3 pt. takedown and 4 point near fall and how that affected bonus points. Penn State gained 11 extra team points via bonus that they would not have received had it not been for a combination of the above scoring changes since 1997 although you could argue some of their tech falls might have still come as some came like 5 minutes into the match. They had 8 total tech falls so that accounts for 4 of those points (tech falls going to major decisions = -0.5 team points) Team Over-performers and under-performers - looking at how teams were projected to score based strictly on seeds (advancement and placement points) and how many placement and advancement points they actually scored (no bonus) Over-Performers 1. Ohio State (+16.5) 2. Michigan (+16) 3. Stanford (+15) 4. Little Rock (+10) 4. Lock Haven (+10) 6. Virginia Tech (+9) 7. Oklahoma (+8.5) 8. Penn State (+7) 9. Navy (6.5) 9. Arizona State (6.5) Over-Performers / Number of Qualifers 1. Lock Haven (3.33) 2. Stanford (3.00) 3. Little Rock (2.00) 4. Ohio State (1.83) 5. Michigan (1.78) 6. Oklahoma (1.70) 7. Navy (1.30) 8. VMI (1.00) 8. West Virginia (1.00) 10. Virginia Tech (0.90) Under-Performers 1. NC State (-46.5) 2. Lehigh (-27) 3. Purdue (-12) 4. Northern Iowa (-10) 5. Harvard (-8.5) 6. Binghamton (-8) 7. Illinois (-7.5) 8. Oklahoma State (-6.5) 9. Cal Poly (-5.5) 10. Air Force (-5) Under-Performers / Qualifiers 1. NC State (-4.65) 2. Lehigh (3.38) 3. Harvard (-2.83) 4. Illinois (-2.50) 5. Purdue (-2.40) 6. Binghamton (-2.00) 7. Air Force (-1.67) 8. Northern Iowa (-1.43) 9. Cal Poly (-1.00) 9. Brown (-1.00) 9. The Citadel (-1.00) Bonus Points - Which teams scored the most? Total Bonus Points 1. Penn State - 34 2. Cornell - 19.5 3. Iowa State - 17 4. Iowa - 15 5. NC State - 13.5 6. Northern Iowa - 12 6. Nebraska - 12 6. West Virginia - 12 9. Missouri - 10. 5 10. South Dakota State, Michigan, Ohio State - 9.5 Bonus Points per qualifier 1. Penn State - 3.40 2. North Dakota State - 2.50 3. West Virginia - 2.40 4. Cornell - 2.17 5. Air Force - 2.00 6. Iowa State - 1.89 7. Northern Iowa - 1.71 8. Iowa - 1.67 8. Ohio - 1.67 10. Wisconsin - 1.60 Conference Stats - I wanted to look at this as a whole since there was a lot of debate about how conference place changed seeding Overperformance or Under-performance - Actual points vs. projected points just looking at placement and advancement (no bonus) Total Performance 1. Pac 12 (+27) 2. Big Ten (+26) 3. MAC (+16.5) 4. SoCon (+2.5) 5. Big 12 (-4) 6. EIWA (-31.5) 7. ACC (-36.5) Total Performance / Number of qualifiers 1. Pac 12 (+0.90) 2. MAC (+0.66) 3. Big Ten (+0.27) 4. SoCon (+0.15) 5. Big 12 (-0.06) 6. EIWA (-0.52) 7. ACC (-1.01) Conference Bonus Points 1. Big Ten (106.5) 2. Big 12 (81.5) 3. EIWA (41) 4. ACC (34.5) 5. Pac 12 (23) 6. MAC (12.5) 7. SoCon (4) Conference Bonus Points per qualifier 1. Big 12 (1.25) 2. Big Ten (1.11) 3. ACC (0.96) 4. Pac 12 (0.77) 5. EIWA (0.67) 6. MAC (0.50) 7. SoCon (0.24)
    11 points
  3. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C414xsKsuXO/?igsh=d2Fsc3M5OTdpcWI= Love it. More sports hate!
    11 points
  4. .... Toned it down, and is actually waiting for the final whistle before sticking the mike in a wrestler's face, as he's done in the past.
    11 points
  5. That's Braeden Davis's coloring hand too.
    11 points
  6. Addressing Brody Teske's #14 pre-seed at 133: Brands: "There's just funny, there's funny things that go on." Translation: I still have no idea what goes on. Brands: "The timing was right. And, you know, we are going to do what's best for our athletes first. And in my assessment, in the program's assessment, it was right to get the timing right for the wrestle off." Translation: Look, clearly I had no idea what the timing of the Big 10 seeding procedure was when I decided to do a wrestle off after the Big 10 deadline. I mean, isn't that obvious by now? Hell, I did this two years in a row. Brands: "I have already said probably more than I want to say about it." Translation: Who the hell let this guy in the press conference anyway? Brands: "And away we go." Translation: Maybe next year I can make it three in a row. What were you nerds even talking about again?
    11 points
  7. It went so quick. Now I understand how my wife feels.
    10 points
  8. Hey everyone, I've finally gotten around to putting my D1 database on a website. It's by far the most comprehensive database you are going to find. I'm working on getting some others up. Over the next few months I hope to get my D2, D3, NAIA, NJCAA up and running too. You can now mess around with where I get all my info from. I have also put up the WCWA, International Worlds, Pan-ams, and a few states too. Wrestling.Guru Notice the domain is not a .com but a .guru
    10 points
  9. Cormier is the right choice for commentator at the NCAA championships. He’s comfortable on the mic. He’s a relatively big name. He understands people who do not follow wrestling. He’s funny. And for casual fans (as well as plenty of wrestling fans) he’s a good story teller and entertaining. The NCAA championships are a time to showcase the sport to a wider audience, and technical commentary is not the right choice. Cormier is.
    9 points
  10. Carr should be considered for OW since he went through Hamiti, O’Toole, Mesenbrink
    9 points
  11. 30-35 years ago I was at the Wilkes Open just watching. Haselrig was there looking at the brackets on the wall. He looked at me(might have recognized me from ncaas) and asked me "how do the consolations work?" I told him, first you have to lose!
    9 points
  12. For a team that wins all the time, PSU fans might be the most sensitive bunch ever. Good for Manning for calling out PSU and glad he explained himself further. Interesting that he reached out to Surianos before tweeting too.
    9 points
  13. 125 R1: Kaylor vs Noto: both AA's Palmer vs Flynn: Palmer right off the scale is likely not gonna be at his best but I think hes a dark horse if he can manage his weight. Caleb smith vs The beard: not much to say just good match. 125 R2: Davis vs Ungar: I think ungar beats Peterson again, having watched a good bit of ungar hes rather boring on his feet but hes really good with double unders where we've seen Davis struggle a tad although it seemed patched up at big10's, and he has some nasty tilts. Figs vs Mckee: seems like Mckee is destined to lose r1 or r2 and then wrestle all the way back. Figs is by no means lighting the world on fire with his wins but hes been winning since his early season slump. 133 R1: Marlon Yarbrough vs nagao: Yarbrough is really 14-4 this year he had 3mff losses one of those losses should have been a win against Latona in the acc semis he also has a previous win over Latona earlier in the year and an 8-7 loss to ragusin. He did get teched by mason leiphart who is pretty prolific from top much like nagao so that bottom deficiency may haunt him here but I think it could be a potential upset. Nasir Bailey vs Kade Moore: kade did not look good at big 12's but maybe hes shaking the rust off he was looking great after he stuck Latona and narrowly lost to Vito. Picking Bailey but exciting one. 133 R2: Bouzakis vs fix: This kinda feels like a terrible matchup for Nic. Fix is as stingy as they come but more than likely Nic will just fire and I think that could lead to some easy points for fix, but Nic has that man strength so hes always exciting. Latona vs Ragusin: two very long boys. Ragusin is in much better form right now but Latona is a 2x AA so he knows how to get it done at NCAA's Nagao vs Bailey: Probably the least talked about TF this year. Bailey is super quick to legs and has great tilts on top (ask Evan frost) This may be my favorite r2 matchup in general going to be a lot of scrambles, I like Bailey to take it given nagaos slight lack of baseline defense this season. 141 R1: Brock hardy vs vince corbella: don't really expect Vince to wrestle he looked really hurt at conferences but purely based off name value a cool match Jordan Titus vs tom crook: just really enjoy watching both of these guys.. don't shoot a head inside single on Titus 141 R2: Beau vs Cole Matthews: Cole had this match about as close to won last year at NCAA's as you can without winning. Neither guy is going to take a leg attack more than likely so it feels destined for rideouts. Hardy vs Lemley: I mean both matches were sick and the series is 1-1 Jack vs Titus: 149 R1: Rathjen vs Williams: missed this one in the dual, Williams defaulted to Watters hope hes healthy but I think he may be a little soft to wrestle rathjen for 7 Abas vs Kasak: very much expect kasak to win this pretty easily but abas did once take Yianni to the brink 149 R2: Arrington vs Demilio: Arrington is in much better form but they did split at CKLV 157 R1: Lewan vs Saldate: Battle of the two guys that can stop Levi from majoring them DJ Mcgee vs Brayton lee: I think Mcgee is really underrated just being a MAC kid, could see him making some noise in this tournament Peyten keller vs Johnny lovett: Mac on Mac crime in r1 Mauller vs Travis: Teague took this one in the dual and they are high school teammates I believe, kinda leaning Mauller in the rematch 157 R2: Haines vs Mauller: Mauller punishes extended shots, unfortunately for him I don't know if anyone finishes better than Levi Lewan vs Robb: I think these guys both have at least two wins against each other in their careers, Lewan seems in better form but id like to hope we see CKLV Robb Andonian vs Downey: I don't really think Andonian is fully healthy, but the scrambles in this match could be absolutely insane Meyer vs Chittum: Third times the charm, hopefully we actually get to see it. I am about as biased towards Meyer as it gets so ill be picking him but his gas tank is a bit of a concern and chittum will be in his face for 7 165 R1: N/A 165 R2: Hall vs Antrell Taylor: Hall seems to have a lot of variance in his results but at his best he should AA at this weight. Taylor impressed me a lot at junior trials and most of this year. Hes super strong despite likely being an actual 157lber and holds really good position should be fun Olejnik vs Amine: Amine is another guy that just knows how to get it done at NCAA's going purely of this years results I favor olejnik pretty heavily 174 R1: N/A 174 R2: PK vs Conigliaro: I would have been more excited for this match had Conigliaro not just lost twice to benny baker 184 R1: N/A 184 R2: Sam wolf vs Bennet berge: Two guys that have really made big jumps this year Chris foca vs Dustin Plott: I thought Foca had a chance to win this weight when brooks and Trent bumped up this year, he has since disappointed me, but at his best I think he can go with Plott salazar vs Rogotzke: If Rogotzke can reach back and chin whip Salazar then he can do it to anyone 197 R1: Surber vs Deprez: This match is probably not actually all that exciting just to contrasts of styles 197 R2: Stephen B vs Stephen L: Buchannen was a consensus finalist coming into the season, he has not really looked the part this year (rumors hes dinged up) I had never heard of Stephen little until he made the u20 world team, but man is he good Jacob Cardenas vs Rocky Elam: bit of a rocky season for... Rocky. The match in the dual was a fairly decisive win for Rocky, but this feels like one Rocky probably needs to get on the podium and hes done that his first 3 years so I think he finds a way Jaxon smith vs lou deprez: this feels like a match with smith can hit a duck or two and I'm here for it 285 R1: Nash vs Schultz: this one is for the boys that miss the old heavies, gonna be a lot of beef and a lot of pushing 285 R2: Feldman vs Trephan: the Feldman that lost to trephan early in the season seems far gone, I like him to get that win back here Nathan Taylor vs Dayton pitzer: I have Pitzer getting by Doucet and this is a match he won earlier this season so 21 seed pitzer in the quarters? Ghadali vs Davison: This match should be pretty high output, two guys that can really move.
    9 points
  14. Our Aaron, Who art in State College, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Championships come, Thy Will be done, On Happy Valley as it is in Kansas City. Give us this day, our daily medal, And forgive us our stalls, as we forgive those who stall against us. And lead us not into cradles, but deliver us from pinfelled.
    9 points
  15. The missed opportunity was Carr not wagging a 1 pt finger in Messenbrinks face at the end.
    8 points
  16. In 4 NCAA Final appearances, Daton Fix has not scored a SINGLE OFFENSIVE Point! Only escapes and "penalty" points.
    8 points
  17. I got the #9 seed winning it at 174
    8 points
  18. Lord, watch over Kenny. Amen
    8 points
  19. Let's discuss what the Bob button actually means. When you respond with the Bob Dole, what are you actually communicating to someone when you respond with it?
    8 points
  20. Thought this was another Ferrari thread.
    8 points
  21. The only thing I learned is Yashika Dutta is a really bad writer.
    8 points
  22. I know. How can it be annual if it is the first? But here we are. Rules: Pick one wrestler at each weight with a seed between 17 and 33. Tournament scoring. 1 point for a champ bracket win, 1/2 point for a consol win, etc. The person whose "team" scores the most is the winner. Tiebreakers: Score of lowest seeded wrestler in the two teams combined. (if Team A picks all 17 seeds and Team B picks all 18 seeds, Team B wins automatically). The wrestler with the highest percentage of their college team's points. (if Team A has a wrestler from Little Rock who scores LR's only points of the tournament, and Team B has a wrestler from Campbell who scores half of Campbell's points for the tournament, Team A wins). Submit your entries here and I will track. Feel free to change as many times as you like up until Wednesday night. As @ionel knows, I may or may not notice. Awards for the top three, no, four teams. Screw you NCAA, you penny-pinching bastards. Oh, and please ignore that prior sentence, and thanks for continuing to sponsor wrestling.
    7 points
  23. Seriously, down 2-3 with 30 seconds left in the match, Kelly sticking Penrith with a spladle in the 1987 championship match was the ultimate.
    7 points
  24. He went out, bought the bottle, got all of the way home, put it on ice, set out his glass, got the lighting just right, sat down, popped the cork, filled his glass, lifted it to his lips, and Larry Owings swiped it from him and drank the whole thing.
    7 points
  25. Not a big Fix fan...but this is a good post match interview.
    7 points
  26. The hawks are going to be circling Bailey and Little from Little Rock. I hope they both stay and help Erisman build that program.
    7 points
  27. "You got Oklahoma State. You got John Smith in the corner. They're gonna wine like f*cking bitches the whole time."
    7 points
  28. Your post is now whining about him "whining." He's allowed to describe his life experience and what he feels, you're allowed to criticize it, but you're just doing the thing you're accusing him of doing.
    7 points
  29. Being upset about someone praising God says a lot more about you then it does about the person who praised God.
    7 points
  30. If a wrestler was Hindu or Muslim, doing that would make people lose their shit in about .03 seconds.
    7 points
  31. And Santa Claus is better than the Easter bunny, but who gives a shit, neither one helped you win a Big Ten title.
    7 points
  32. Should we really have to hear your beliefs? We want to post about wrestling not hear what you believe.
    7 points
  33. Maybe Brands doesn't think he's in trouble? He should know if he's in trouble. When you get in trouble, like when you're in trouble, is when you don't know you're in trouble, but when you get in trouble and if you know you're in trouble then you always end up on top.
    7 points
  34. 7 points
  35. In 1979 Andy Daniels from Ohio University was unseeded at 118 pinned John Azevedo in 30 seconds to win The NCAA title. Andy wrestled at an inner-city high school in Akron ,Ohio. His senior year at 98 pounds he finished 6th in the state. My high school competed against his school.
    7 points
  36. #7 seeds who took 1st #1 seeds who took 8th
    7 points
  37. Man, what a fall. Hamiti used to live in Madison. Then we thought he was going to be in Ann Arbor and fat and happy at 174. Now he's living in Stillwater and he's Daton Fix's replacement at 133.
    6 points
  38. Very few like or appreciate Iowa style wrestling anymore. It's unattractive in the 2000s. It's based on some fiction of a tough macho, self-sacrificing man. Marlboro Man. It's low scoring. It's not fan friendly. It is rooted in the Brands' experience at very low weights and doesn't work well in an era scrambling and funk. It doesn't appeal to recruits. It is not enjoyable to watch. The Brands don't get this and they think being stubborn is being resolute and strong. These spark plugs and fire hydrant coaches aren't going to change. And they will only fall behind further while the peanut-crunching crowd gets louder .... in its impatience and disapproval. But the midwest also doesn't like change either and doesn't know what to do. It's more earth than water or fire. It loves authoritarians not innovators.
    6 points
  39. I don't want to hear any more of this talk about Ben going to Wisconsin. Smith is going to eventually retire at Miz and my ultimate dream is an Akren as head coach and KO on staff. Please...please...please!
    6 points
  40. 2nd place without any transfer portal BS. Hey, my team does it, but that doesn't mean I have to be ecstatic about it. That's the game now, though. Much respect to Cornell for getting it done with original recruits (and with a new coach!).
    6 points
  41. A bigger easily solved issue: how is it possible when we go from 8 mats down to 4 or especially down to 1 we can't have enough mat border to prevent a wrestler from going off the mat edge when they are technically still inbounds?
    6 points
  42. Since the NCAA ended D2/D3/NAIA wrestlers from competing in the D1 tournament in the early 90s, here are the guys that I am tracking who have AA'd after transferring from a non-D1 & non-JUCO institution. Christian Lance - Ft. Hays Steve Fittery - Shippensburg Bill Stouffer - Grand Valley State Mo Lawal - Central Oklahoma Jody Stritmatter - Johnstown Tim Morrissey - Western Colorado Donnell Rawls - Winston-Salem
    6 points
  43. I am a PSU fan, but I am done with the PSU athletes trying to tell us about religion. And when they say that "none of this matters," then why are we watching?
    6 points
  44. Here are ones that you have to download and it will update the team scores. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17IfMQrV0_chH-X1GH8NwS3LxquvFpeuJyMkP4pgFszA/edit?usp=sharing
    6 points
  45. I've heard Biden say this.
    6 points
  46. This is going to take a while, so you might want to go grab a beer. We'll need a legend to keep track of everything. So here's the legend: LEGEND OLYMPIC RED SHIRT MEDICAL RED SHIRT INJURY SURGERY REGULAR RED SHIRT 125. CARDANI. He missed last season because of an INJURY that required SURGERY. He has worn a large shoulder brace all this season. 133. BYRD/MADRIGAL. This was a double-whammy. Over the Summer Lucas Byrd was going to qualify for the Olympics in Greco. He was signed up to do so, and he's made age-group teams in the past. My money would've been on him, but he suffered an INJURY to his hand/wrist. I don't know if it required SURGERY but suspect that it did. He's had either padding or a brace on his hand/wrist for months. He had to take a MEDICAL RED SHIRT. Luckily, Tony Madrigal wanted to finish up his eligibility at the U of I. Unfortunately, he suffered a hamstring INJURY pretty early in the season and missed duals. He came back and suffered a re-INJURY of the hamstring. Good news is that he's back and looks great. 141. PUCINO. Unknown INJURY or illness kept him out of a couple duals this season. 149. WEBSTER. The question was whether he would take his true Freshman redshirt. In the end, the decision was made to take a REGULAR RED SHIRT. The good news is that Kannon and Braeden Scoles showed up at the Zingo Nationals and cradled everybody from the ticket-taker to the referees. 157. ROBERTS. A lot happened here. Austin O'Connor became an assistant coach, and wrestled with Joe. He said Joe has what it takes to challenge for the podium. But, Joe had some concussion issues. He had a re-INJURY during the season. On top of that, he suffered an INJURY to his hand, which caused him to miss duals and eventually wear a wrap that looked like an oven mitt. 165. LITTLE BRAWNY. He is training for his shot at the Olympics and is wearing an OLYMPIC RED SHIRT. The good news here is that he has apparently become even better at hand-fighting because, hey, you know, hand-fighting is what Greco dudes do. 184. CONNELL. Dylan had an INJURY to his foot/ankle early in the season. He then had a re-INJURY to the same foot/ankle at Midlands. The good news: He should now be healthy and have his gas tank back. Only 8 auto-bids at this weight at the Big Ten tournament, so he'll need to kick butt. 197. THICC BRAWNY/PETTIGREW. OMG. Where do we even start? The Brawlnagel is on an OLYMPIC RED SHIRT. Isiah Pettigrew was doing well in the lineup and then suffered a knee INJURY. He had SURGERY and came back about a month later. What a BAMF! 285. LUFFMAN. Big Luuuke had an INJURY that required SURGERY. He will hopefully have a MEDICAL RED SHIRT for this season. If not, he still has eligibility remaining.
    6 points
  47. Dan St. John .... never won a HS state title and won 2 NCAA titles Chris Pendleton.... Won one state title....not highly recruited...struggled his first year at OSU and ended up a 2x NCAA champ Idaho... never won a state title or NCAA title... but won a couple of the days here on the board. BOOM!
    6 points
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