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No, because it's not as simple as you think it is. Having reffed, your mind is conditioned to red/green, right/left and connected to the scorers table, the scoreboard, and the ankles of the wrestlers to insure you have the right wrestler scoring. It might seem cool to the fan, but changing out colors every match at a tournament would be an absolute nightmare. People would be yelling all day long that the score was wrong and coaches would need 17 bricks to get things right.

Great plan.

But then how would Jason Nolf have demonstrated his monastic attention to detai?

I keep this in my wallet, taped to my mirror and a poster size on the ceiling in my bedroom.

I've reviewed the brackets and concluded: everyone has a bad draw. Let the games begin!

From the Pre-Championships Manual (page 12): https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2022-23D1MWR_PreChampsManual.pdf

Get rid of ankle rides Get rid of ankle grabs Get rid of ankle bands The obvious solution is to get rid of ankles in wrestling, period. No ankled wrestlers allowed! Shinstumps only!

I'm gonna go to Best Buy and put a different mat on each of the tv's on the display wall

Have you ever seen the matside tower scoreboards? The ones with red and green lights that signify who has how many points and who has riding time? Give it up, dude.

We are the board, this is what we do, we look for problems that don't exist and we solve them.

Make the wrestlers wear red and green capes, respectively.

Anyone?

9:30p. I live in the Pacific time zone and cannot get home until about 6:20p. I’ll create a new thread with a link to the board and general procedural suggestions. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Wrestling is better when all 3 OSU's are competitive

I'm lucky... in that my wife knew when we met that I made the trip to NCAAs (as well as either Scuffle or Midlands) every year. I've attended each national tourney from 2003-2019 - except 2009, when my daughter was born. And 2009 has its own story. The first day of the tourney (March 19, 2009) happened to be the due date for our first child. Like many folks, I had bought tickets for that tourney nearly a year in advance. Wifey & I are at a pre-natal visit in early March and OB says, "Everything's looking really good here... I think we can induce on March 12th." My quick response was, "Oh great! That means I can do to..." I'll never forgot the immediate glare I got from my wife that stopped me mid-sentence. She didn't realize that I had already sold my tickets a couple months prior. I still joke about it from time to time, but she doesn't find the humor in it.

Testify. And if necessary, we create problems to solve or not solve. I always loved the line in the Bond movie "Licence to Kill". Bond is up in the office of the bad guy with the lizard on his shoulder. A bunch of the bad guy's henchmen are around. Bad guy asks Bond what he's doing on his island. Bond says looking for a job. Bad guy says you would need skills I don't already have. Bond looks around at the henchmen and says that shouldn't be too hard. Bad guy asks Bond what skills he has. Bond says I help people with problems. Bad guy says, so you're a problem solver. Bond says "No, more of a problem eliminator". Great line. I worked with lots of problem creators, some problem solvers, and dang few problem eliminators.

Yes this could be the winner:

I've spent a great deal of time studying this, but only on the hight school level.

If at a computer, two (or more) monitors and multiple browser sessions. ESPN+ allows you to select a specific mat. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

So why does that not make him a true freshmen? He didn't red/gray shirt...he didn't skip a year in terms of age...he is chronologically what is considered a true freshmen. Never understood trying to diminish someone. Anyway, Haines, hands down, best TRUE freshmen year...so far.

I say, stand pat on the ankle bands... why are "we" looking at a NON-problem, seeking a solution? ??? D3

Ankle bands are very silly. This is especially true for duals. At the BTT when you have multiple teams wearing black singlets, I could dig the armbands idea. With 14 teams, though, somebody will get stuck with turquoise or pink. Another change I'd like to see is padding of some sort--even strips of carpeting--around the mats. Presently, you have wrestling mat or hardwood floor. And the circle is just big enough that wrestlers are about a body-length away from the floor at the edge of the circle. It's too late for Yahya Thomas, but maybe the next guy doesn't hit his head with a loud thud on the basketball court. That was gruesome.

Aaron Nagao got slept on until he popped himself in the B1G finals and rode RBY. Kid is a monster on top.

Matthew Olguin

Half-nelson + Nelson = 3/2 Nelson.

Maybe coaching harnesses? Each coach is required to wear one and they are attached to a solid object that is (fill in the blank) distance from the mat? After the match the coach unhooks their harness, holds the strap, and walks around the tournament with it on until their next wrestler is up. Repeat....

I’ll go with Ryan Jack of NC State. He’s the little brother of Kevin Jack, a 3 time all American. Ryan is 23-3 on the year. Losses were by a combined total of 4 points. 2 losses were to Cole Matthews, and he went 1-1 against Brock Hardy this year. I don’t think he’s gotten a ton of national love, but he’s a guy you don’t want to see on your side of the bracket either. He feels like a lock to at least AA and has the upside to make a run to the finals.

I read the "worst wrestler" thread. I know some you here have opinions on this one....

Speaking of a non-problem that should be solved: Can we do away with ankle bands? They are so amateurish. Instead of each wrestler having to don the bands pre-match, each team could simply supply the ref with a wrist band that matches their singlet. (At tournaments, each wrestler could hand the ref a matching wrist band.

Oregon State - SEVEN - 125 lbs Brandon Kaylor - 133 lbs Jason Shaner - 141 lbs Cleveland Belton - 165 lbs Matthew Olguin - 174 lbs Mateo Olmos - 184 lbs Trey Munoz - 197 lbs Tanner Harvey Stanford - SIX - 125 lbs Nico Provo - 149 lbs Jaden Abas - 157 lbs Daniel Cardenas - 165 lbs Shane Griffith - 174 lbs Tyler Eischens - 197 lbs Nick Stemmet Arizona State - FIVE - 125 lbs Brandon Courtney - 133 lbs Michael McGee - 149 lbs Kyle Parco - 174 lbs Cael Valencia - 285 lbs Cohlton Schultz (without Jesse Vasquez at 141 lbs and Jacori Teemer at 157 lbs) Cal Poly S.L.O. - FOUR - 125 lbs Antonio Lorenzo - 133 lbs Ethan Rotondo - 197 lbs Bernie Truax - 285 lbs Trevor Tinker Cal State University at Bakersfield - ONE - 133 lbs Chance Rich University of Arkansas at Little Rock - ZERO - Despite their best results (5th place) at the PAC 12 tournament in their 4 years of existence.

True story. A lady sitting next to my wife and me at a tournament years ago confided to us that the first wrestling tournament she ever went to had green and red ankle bands, and she thought they were for Christmas.

Tried, but this is the closest I found.

Bring back the robes!

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Congratulations to our winners in the B1G Tournament Prop Bet Contest! We had entries on Twitter, on Intermatforums.com, at ILLINOISMatmen.com and in DMs. First prize and two ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond t-shirts go to Significant ACC Bias on Twitter (nine correct answers and did a slightly better job on the team standings). Second prizes and one t-shirt apiece are hereby awarded to every poster who got at least eight of the prop bets right. These include: FSL ILLINI (9 correct answers but sucked at the team race, ya homer), @ionel on Intermat (9 correct answers but didn't have a tie breaker with team standings), @Mr. PeanutButter on Intermat (8 correct answers, got first four teams right in team standings) and Fighting Scot on ILLINOISMatmen (8 correct answers but did a brilliant job on the team race). A reminder of what the prop bets were: 1. Spencer Lee will get a first-period pinfall in his first match at the 2023 B1G tournament (No, he did not.) 2. A team point will be deducted from Iowa's score during the 2023 B1G tournament (No, somehow Terrence and Phillip managed not to give up a team point.) blah, blah, blah 8. During broadcast of the finals, the cameras will catch a nervous coach with his finger in his nose (This was close. Tom Brands went to his nose multiple times during the Spencer Lee interview, but didn't have penetration. Also, the PSU coaching staff during the Haines match had their hands cupped around their mouths the whole time, but you couldn't tell if they dug for gold. I suspect they did, but have no proof. Clever fellows!) [NOTA BENE: I actually won $100 during a Super Bowl with this bet. The wager was that one of the coaches would go spelunking for a clingberry during the last five minutes of the game, and dadgumit!, Bill Cowher came through for me! I don't recall which Super Bowl it was, but if you watch the replay of the last five minutes, Coach is knuckle deep. What can I say, it was a close game.] If you're interested, the rest of the post is here at The ILLINI Wrestling Blog and Forum and Beyond.

He’s been hammering all year ,and getting better. Pinto the same.

I take it you are referring to the fact that Davis does not usually want to be in the corner and prefers to jump, sweat, stretch, gesticulate, cheer, curse, or swear with active mirror neurons from afar and often near the tunnel during NCAA matches when his guys are wrestling.

Here's the link to the Draft Board file. Currently filled with placeholders to accommodate 15 participants, using wrestlers from the 2022 NCAA field. Anyone with this link should be able to view the file as I make updates (process picks) during the draft. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eze6IbcFHbIbVy3x6PkCYowK3kdUYBuhVvo2ZncA4ek/edit?usp=sharing In other words... I don't need email addresses.

if Nelson uses a half nelson...... does that make it a full nelson?

I would expect the following At-Larges to be within or near a Top 15 Seed : 125: Cardinale (WV) & Brown (MD) 133: McGonagle (Lehigh) 141: Happel (UNI) 149: Gomez (WI) & Zapf (PENN) 157: Jacques (MIZ) 174: Washington (IU) & Fisher (NW)

Cael prefers to throw chairs when he disagrees with the call/outcome.

I wish they would wait to interview 125 until after 133 and so forth. HWT would have to be pretty immediate after the match, however. Let them take a drink, breathe, towel off and gain some composure. Also, Ray isn't good, but I'd take him over Quint all day. Jim knows his shit, Tim meh, and Shane needs to dial it back from 11 to 8.5 or something. I feel like he's yelling at me....

Having done this multiple times in my career, it's the spot that TV wants but it doesn't work great for wrestling given the immediacy of the interviews. You never get good answers, but you always want the emotional response. For every "work hard and get better" response from a "what do you need to do" question, you get the "I just want some ice cream." The networks will gamble to get that ice cream line every time. A few years ago, they did Sparks with breakaways, which gave us the Sam Brooks mullet moment, but that's very rare in television these days. Ray Flores is a professional, but he's got a no-win position there. You have to ask quick question, realizing these are NOT for the die-hard. Everyone watching knows more than Ray does. You will never get that kind of insight from a post-match interview. He's good apparently at boxing (I don't watch boxing anymore), and he's a good broadcaster, but sometimes good broadcasters get stuck in gigs they do a decent enough job at for the networks but will always be reviled by the die-hards. Quint, for example. That role deserves a little grace.

I've never heard it called a "head grinder" before. Always been coffee grinder to me. Also never heard it called a Gizoni. I can't tell how serious the OP is being. I don't think Shane Sparks is "ridiculing" anyone. I think he's made a couple of jokes and they have a good rapport with each other, a lot of mutual respect(though moreso from Shane to Gibbons). I would not question Gibbons, but...you know how this stuff is. It's regional. It's also not something I really pay much attention to. Gibbons does a great job of breaking down Wrestling in a way that you can understand even if you're not a Wrestler. Talking about just the head position, the hand fighting, back pressure, position in scrambles, "whoever can get their head up here is gonna win this position." It's really an awesome duo. And then with Tim Johnson, even better.

That argument was hilarious, I was laughing out loud at that exchange. Never heard it called a coffee grinder before.

I like the ones you mentioned. Also always liked Edinboro: