uncle bernard

1) what are you talking about? the video you replied to is of Mohamad Safa, the same guy willie called a fundamentalist. 2) the response to human shields isn’t to kill the shields. 3) name them.

The first guy and the second guy are the same guy. That's why I posted it. To show he's not an Islamic Fundamentalist like Willie accused him of being. And everybody on here knows Willie didn't think through the way that your two "fundamentalists" might be similar. He saw a Muslim supporting Palestine and cried fundamentalist which is obviously racist. According to your definition of fundamentalism, @Offthemat @Scouts Honor and @Husker_Du are all hardcore fundamentalists as they've been clear that there's nothing Israel can do to make them not support it. I don't have a problem with Israel killing all of Hamas' fighters. That's war. I do have a problem with levelling apartment buildings, hospitals, and universities because there *might* be some Hamas fighters inside when they *know* that there are tons of civilians. That's how you get a genocide charge. It was just a week or two ago that they did an air strike on international food workers because they thought they saw a Hamas fighter join the caravan even though they admitted they couldn't confirm it. That *suspicion* was justification enough for them to kill 7 international volunteers, including an American citizen, who they knew were innocent. That's not an acceptable way to carry out a just war. The "fundamentalists" on this forum don't want to engage in any nuance on the subject. They don't want to acknowledge that there is a way for Israel to carry out this war that would get far less criticism and kill far less people. They don't want to acknowledge that Israel isn't just doing this from self-defense and that they have ulterior motives *as any country would!*

most of the people dying are not in hamas. half of them are children. can you really not understand how someone could have empathy for innocent civilians caught in the middle of an awful conflict?

talk about shifting goalposts. two things on the total opposite of the political spectrum and not at all what willie accused him of.

Yeah, this guy just screams Islamic Fundamentalist lol. His background is in environmental issues and anti-pollution.

Instead of flailing around trying to justify an ignorant accusation made in the heat of an argument, just admit you shouldn't have called him a fundamentalist and we'll all move on.

You knew none of this when you called him a fundamentalist. None of it indicates he's a fundamentalist either. And what rhetoric are you referring to?

Yes, I'm sure Jewish people were blocked from entering, but not because they were Jewish, but because they are human and all humans were blocked from entering. I know twitter is your whole world, but the videos and captions you're seeing do not reflect the reality on the ground. Do you think the Jews doing the blocking are racist against Jews too?

that's not what's happening. all people are blocked from the building, not jews. many of the people doing the blocking are jews themselves. they were literally celebrating seder together yesterday.

no you called him a fundamentalist. we can all read the post willie. just admit that was wrong and move on.

you called a man a fundamentalist just because his name is Mohamad. that's pretty racist.

so that's a no. racist. if you don't want to be called a racist, don't assume everybody named Mohamad is an Islamic Fundamentalist. anybody who supports this war is a bloodthirsty genocide cheerleader. see, we can both make sweeping assertions!

right on queue he just did it again

what reason did you have to think he's a fundamentalist other than his name? enlighten us, racist.

i was not following that exchange and interpreted this as reporting because you disagree with their take (willie has threatened to ban me before). doxxing and threats are a different matter. no excuse for that.

That's fine and I wouldn't chant that and certainly don't believe that. But my point is that people bring up those incidents as a way to discredit a much larger movement that doesn't believe those things. And I doubt most of the Americans chanting "Death to Israel" mean that they want to carry out a genocide of Israeli's. They want a death of the apartheid state. I could very easily come on here and post hundreds of clips of Israelis and Zionists saying we *should* kill all the Palestinians and take their land. Clips of Israelis mocking dead Palestinian children. They're all over the place. Hell, there are people on here that clearly take glee in it. That doesn't discredit Israelis right to exist and live peacefully. It doesn't excuse the murder of Israeli civilians on 10/7. Like I said, I seriously encourage you to stop by a protest. You don't have to join! Just watch and maybe talk to a few people. I think you'll be pretty surprised at what you see. It's not what the media wants you to believe.

anybody who's done this is a coward. it's an internet forum. if you don't want to see things you disagree with, don't log on.

The only way you can think that all of these protestors want to do a second holocaust is if you willfully ignore reality in favor of isolated videos out of context from propagandists. Seriously, go to your nearest protest and watch and listen. You will be completely safe and you might learn something (which you say you want to do). Have you ever met a Palestinian? Someone who can explain to you what life is like Gaza? Who can name dozens of family members who were killed in air strikes? Funny thing is, based on the demographics of this board, you'll probably meet more Jews at that protest than you've met your whole life.

he wasn’t. he and willie racistly assumed because he had a muslim name he might as well have been in al qaeda. not to mention omar doesn’t even cover her own face and her daughter doesn’t wear any sort of head covering.

“fundamentalists” he’s a ***ducking** UN human rights diplomat you racist scumbag.

to demonstrate that you’re an idiot mostly

shifting goal posts. exactly what you would have said 60 years ago when you would have been complaining about civil rights protestors. wrong side of history.