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Carter Starocci, possibly?

This came too late to help Willie/@Husker_Du, but Flo will not be able to use this tactic to stop others from moving on in the near future. "The ban, which will take effect later this year, carves out an exception for existing noncompetes that companies have given their senior executives, on the grounds that these agreements are more likely to have been negotiated. The FTC says employers should not enforce other existing noncompete agreements." https://www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1246655366/ftc-bans-noncompete-agreements-lina-khan

I think this was the crash

Whaaaat?!?! Two Cinnabons? They are multiplying!

I don't really follow greco, but I seem to recall that he left his shoes on the mat after losing in the best of three finals at the 2021 trials. He won the spot up a weight at 97kg. I tried to find some information to confirm my recollection regarding his retirement and I found a bunch of information that he was challenging his loss at the 2021 trials via arbitration. From what I gather Rau and his coaches requested the official of his final be changed because he had a team affiliation with Rau's opponent. This was denied and there was some fishy stoppages and calls during the first bout. Match 1 Rau Stefanowicz 2021 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K04Fxf17rkA Match 2 Rau Stefanowicz 2021 - https://youtu.be/oGtE-K01ry8?si=r954edGNmen29W4l Match 2 doesn't shoe him leaving his shoes on the mat. Does anyone recall him leaving his shoes on the mat in 2021? Does anyone know the outcome of the arbitration? I assume he lost because Stefanowicz wrestled at the Olympics, but is the decision available anywhere? Did they re-wrestle the match?

Sonnen said that Starocci has been offered $400k to wrestle in the NCAA next season. It is hard to imagine that this offer was coming from Pitt. It is also somewhat hard to believe anything Sonnen says. He starts talking about Starocci at 4:20 in the video.

Yes, the most NCAA titles per wrestler and possibly the most D1 NCAA titles. The 1984 team also had 4 titles on the greco side with Blatnik a 2x D2 champ and Famiano a 2x D3 champ. I think the 2024 greco team will only have 1 NCAA champ, Joe Rau with a D3 title.

I think the step out is far superior to fleeing or stalling. It is black and white did the whole foot leave the wrestling area. It turns a judgement call (stalling and fleeing) into something objective. I favour that. Straight arm pushout and grounded exceptions kind of annoying aspects to it, but in comparison to stalling/fleeing are a net positive. OP's complaint was about passivity judgement calls not step outs. Removing the step out and replacing it with fleeing/passivity would just create more of these.

Not the only time that happened in the tournament. Brooks wrestled Dieringer in the semis. Brooks has 4 titles and Ringer 3. More Hodges on the mat(2 vs 1) in that one too. NCAA records Kyle Dake 137-4, Alex Dieringer 133-4, Jason Nolf 117-3, Aaron Brooks 89-3.

A 4th final, 74kg, featured RTC teammates with Nolf and Dake wrestling each other.

Alex Marinelli tweeted his retirement on X after the trials.

I'll give him a pass if he did the same thing to Taylor Saturday night.

18 is a maximum for the team. Lee and Retherford still need to qualify. Could be 12, 15, or 18 at the games. The 1984 team had 19 individual NCAA titles. Bobby Weaver (0) Joe Gonzales (3) Barry Davis (3) Randy Lewis (2) Andy Rein (1) Dave Schultz (1) Mark Schultz (3) Ed Banach (3) Lou Banach (2) Bruce Baumgartner (1)

Not sure. The lady on the PA said multiple times the top 4 are on the national team. She started to expound on it at one point but was cut off by action on the mat. I think JB must not have weighed in day 2. I guess because there is the possibility he'd have to wrestle 3rd place he is required to weigh in. Top 4 - Dake, Nolf, Burroughs, Messenbrink should have been on the team is my understanding. Not really sure.

The national team is made up out of the top 4 at the OTT. In non-olympic years it's only the top 3 at the WTT/Final X

JB used a lot of these same tactics in Final X last year with Chance. He got booed at times and that was in his home state of NJ.

Escobedo wrestled at worlds at 57kg in 2013. Looks like Blanc and Escobedo wrestled at the trials in 2016, so he's another one high school recruits may have seen wrestle live.

Here are less stupid proposed bracket for 65kg and 86kg. This keeps Nick Lee and Aaron Brooks in the position of the 1 seed which sounds about right to me since they both defeated the wrestler with the semifinal bye in their last meeting. I have the consolations by standard bracketing and it doesn't work out quite as perfect as 2021 74kg did, but it's still better than what was actually used. There are two byes in the consi quarters (R12) which are created by the missing quarterfinals and R16 matches in the championship bracket. Two wrestlers could be moved from the cons quarters to fill the byes in the R12. This would make it so no quarterfinal loser would have a bye to the cons semi 1 round (top 8 finish). This would leave a single first round consolation match at 65 and a full consi quarter (r12) round at 86kg. I'd probably lean to placing the losers of match 1 and 5 into this pigtail as they would likely be the worst seeded and the last matches to be filled when entering the bracket. So this would be a bye at 86KG where there its no match 1 (Brooks has a bye). I've also attached a visualization of this. 65kbBracketLessStupid.pdf65kbBracketLessStupid.pdf 86kbBracketLessStupid.pdf86kbBracketLessStupid.pdf ConsolationsModified.pdf

They look set to go out on a low note in men's freestyle at least. It looks like TMWC will sweep the men's places. Any change Jordan Burroughs, Zahid Valencia or anyone else can grab a spot from the Titans?

I had thought about this and I also think the wrestler with the bye should be seeded. I would guarantee the wrestler with the bye a top 4 seed and just more him to that position in the bracket. In the case of 65kg Retherford could be the top seed, but there is an argument for Nick Lee to be the top seed. The last time Retherford wrestled 65kg he lost to Nick Lee. Retherford has never medaled at 65kg. Diakomihalis has beaten Retherford at 65kg and is the only wrestler to medal at the weight. I could see someone putting him anywhere between 1-3. Ideally I'd want the wrestlers distributed so the top 2 guys meet in the finals. I could see this being a slight issue if two wrestlers have byes. This could have been the case this year if Arujau had gone up. I don't think many would have him as a top 2 seed at 65 kg. In this case I say give both Aruba and Retherford guaranteed top 4 seeds. Putting no further restrictions on the seeding could lead to the two guys with byes wrestling each other in the semis if Retherford is 2 behind Nick Lee and Arujau gets the 3. Some people might not like that because their opponent will also be fresh. I'm okay with that as they still only need 1 win to make the final and they will have a big advantage over their finals opponent, but some will want them separated in the bracket. I think this is a minor point.

You're not wrong. Here is the document with the procedures - https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blteb7d012fc7ebef7f/bltf8d10db3aa328be4/650367e19bcd1b10091d0862/2024_MFS_OLY_Procedures.pdf Looking at the edit history at the end of the document it was created by Megan Ball and reviewed and signed off on by Rich Bender, Cody Bickley, and Mallory Velte. I suppose we should be complaining to them. Maybe they will spend more than a minute reviewing it next time. All of their email addresses are in the document...

There would be byes, but they would be less messed up than they are now. Below is the consolation bracket from 74kg in 2021. There were 8 wrestlers in the bracket. The championship bracket had three wrestlers on the top and 5 on the bottom including Dake who had a bye to the semis. The consolation bracket contained the 6 wrestlers who lost before the final with two on the top and 4 on the bottom. If I were to draw them up it would look something like this Championship Nolf 1 Nolf bye 7 Nolf Gantt 10 2 Gantt Joseph Nolf Massa 12 3 Massa bye 8 Wick bye 4 Wick Wick Dake Marsteller 5 Marsteller bye 9 Marsteller bye 11 6 Carr Carr Dake Dake and the consolation would look something like this Bye (missing quarter) Joseph Joseph (loser 1/2) Carr Carr (loser 9) Carr Wick Bye (loser 3/4) Wick (loser 10) Marsteller Marsteller (Loser 11) Massa (loser 8) Massa Marsteller bye (loser 5/6) Massa Gantt (loser 7) Gantt Bye (missing R16) The entries missing due to the matches eliminated to accommodate the semifinal bye are in bold. You can see there is one on the top and another on the other side making the backet balanced. Brackets were filled out progressing wrestlers, but what I think their seeds were for illustration purposes. These matches never happened.

This is essentially what I did at 65kg. I just kept the pre-seed assignments instead of reassigning them the number where they would be placed in a 16 man bracket. The problem is that the procedures are set up to allow for two semifinal byes. When there is only one then the other becomes a bye making the bracket very unbalanced. If there are two wrestlers with semi-final byes then it works just fine. However two semifinal byes are only possible at three weights and has never happened. They should make a separate procedure for the situation where only one wrestler has a bye. Here is the sample bracket from the procedures. In this case the one world medalist position turns into a bye and makes everything stupid.

I don't understand the bracketing that Flo has for 65KG. Below is their bracket. I think this is dumb. To make the top semifinal a wrestler must be best of 3 wrestlers. This is the case for either quarterfinal that feeds into it. To make the bottom semifinal you must either be Zain Retherford or the top wrestler out of 6 guys. This makes no sense. It makes the bracket unbalanced and the 4 seed more advantageous than the 2 or 3 seeds. It would make more sense to give Retherford his own semi spot and then distribute the 12 wrestlers equally to feed into the other three semi spots. This would make either semifinalist the top wrestler out of 4 instead of two semis being feed by small brackets with 3 wrestlers each and the other semi having 2x as many guys. I would probably do it something like this Here I've made Retherford/the guy with the bye to the semi as the defacto 1 seed distributed the other wrestlers according to their seeds. If there is something in the procedures that favours the actual 1 seed over the guy with a bye to the semifinals I'd switch Retherford with Lee's quarter bracket. This would give the 1 seed Lee the most advantageous semifinal position avoiding both the two seed, Diakomihalis, and the wrestler with the bye, Retherford, until the finals. It would look like this I can't figure out why they do it that way. I thought they would have realized how stupid it was to do it like this the last time after they looked at the 74kg bracket. Totally unbalanced. Nolf had to win only one match to make the finals the same as Dake who had the bye. Meanwhile All the wrestlers on the bottom like the two and three seeds would have to win 3.

Would make sense. NLWC has 4 guys that had spots in 2021.